On September 30, 2026, former Air Force intelligence officer David Grusch appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience and described footage he says he was shown from what he called a retrieval operation.

Asked how many bodies he remembered, Grusch said he thought he saw three or four. He described them as human-looking, unusually beautiful and pale bluish-white. When Rogan raised the comparison to Greek gods, Grusch agreed that was how he had put it. He said the footage was recent but did not identify the operation or when it took place, and said he had tried to corroborate it through other sources before accepting it.

He went further, at second hand. Colleagues, he said, had described reptilian creatures over seven feet tall with scaly skin, and claimed U.S. personnel had fired on them, with Americans hurt or killed. Grusch said he had not seen those beings himself. He also listed craft shapes from discs and eggs to boomerangs.

Grusch testified to Congress in 2023 that the U.S. runs secret programs to recover and reverse-engineer non-human craft. None of what he described on Rogan has been backed by released records. The footage has not been made public, and he acknowledged he lacked the full picture. The Pentagon’s UAP office said in its latest annual report that it has found no evidence the government or contractors have recovered UAP material.